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Up for Discussion – Phones with Cameras

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Last week I did my first Up for Discussion and I learned so much about black and white photography.  I like this idea of having areas where people can discuss things.  I couldn’t think of what to do today, then as I was going to the hospital this morning for my Physio session I looked up at the outside of the hospital and I saw something and thought, “I have to take a photo”.  Of course I didn’t have my DSLR with me, but I did have my phone.

20140318_080719So I got it out and composed my image and pressed the shutter button.  There was my image.  Is it great, well, it’s not bad.  Would it have been better with my DSLR? Possibly.  Would I like to go back with my DSLR?  Damn straight I do.  Will I? Who knows.

Phones with cameras have come a long way since they first came out.  I can remember asking for a phone that didn’t have a camera.  The photos used to be fairly useless, and if I remember correctly very hard to get them off your phone.  Now Google uploads them to my Google+ albums, doesn’t publish them, but it does mean they are there if I want to use them.  I do find that convenient.  Dropbox does the same thing.
So what are we discussing here?

Good point, I get asked often when I am teaching if I think a camera in an android or iphone will replace DSLRs.  I don’t think they will, you don’t have enough control on the images you take with the phone.  So for the immediate future I can’t see it happening.

1922438_788456054498776_741938710_nOne of the things I do love about my android phone camera is the convenience of it, because I always have my phone with me, then I always have a camera with me.  Let’s face it, not every image has to be serious, and I think the phone camera is great for spontaneous fun shots like the image above.  After taking photos of the sunset in the Docklands, my friend and I put our cameras away, and then we had dinner.  As we were walking back to the car we saw this guy sitting in a shop window.  What a great mannequin/doll.  We both wanted to take photos and without even thinking about it, we got out our phones.  This sort of thing was perfect for the phone.

20130828_165129I often use my phone as a way of letting people know where I am. (The above image was taken inside the National Gallery of Victoria, looking outside through the water wall.) You can take a photo and upload it to facebook or g+ instantly, and then people who like you or follow you know where you have been.  I use it to give people an idea of what photos I might be putting up soon.  I now put most of my images up on google+.

There is definitely a place for this sort of photography.  I know that photographers are out there that use the phone exclusively and have worked out the best way to use it.  I know you can take great photos with them, but I wouldn’t like to be relying on only it.  I have heard of photographers showing up to weddings with just an iphone to take the wedding.  That is very scary.

There are issues that come up with the camera on the phone as well.

20130420_082621Bright light is not your friend with the camera/phone.  You don’t seem to be able to compensate for it.  So you have to try and make it work, I usually just give up and don’t worry about it.

IMG_20120526_132442Instagram is another thing which is great on the phone.  Being able to take photos and play with them a little on the phone, that is apply filters is fun.  It is great to see what you can do to an image.  You can then share them with social media.  I don’t use it as much now as I used to, but I like to play with it every now and then.

I use my the camera on my phone for fun, not much else.  I wouldn’t consider any of the photos I take with it as being great.  Sometimes you might get one that is great, but I usually don’t try too hard.  Though I have to say, the phone does a pretty decent job with a sunset or sunrise.

So do you have a phone with a camera?  How do you use it?  What do you like about it?  What don’t you like?  

Here is a gallery with more of my “fun” images.

Quick reminder, Monochrome Madness Challenge is tomorrows post, so you have only a few hours to get your photos in if you want to be included in this weeks post.

To find out how to submit your image and what size it needs to be, please look at last weeks post.

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  1. The phone cams are way better these days but have a long way to go. I don’t believe they will ever catch up to serious cams like you use.

    March 18, 2014
    • I agree John, they do have a long way to go. I don’t think they will either, if it were possible, then compact cameras would be much better.

      March 18, 2014
  2. Great article Leanne!

    I must say there are quite a few things my phone can do ‘better’ than my DSLR. My phone is a Sony Xperia S and for making macro pictures of flowers it’s easier than my DSLR macro telelens. With the DSLR i have to be 1,5 mtrs from the subject whereas with the phone i can get very close. Light conditions have to be good though, too bright light will never give a good result on the phone..

    Another thing i love to use on my phone is the panorama function. While in Scotland last September i made about 40 panoramas . The quality is surprisingly good for a small sized picture!

    And i guess the final thing i’d like to add that with the phone its kind of a surprise to see what will transpire. To give an example (this is one of the 40 panorama’s taken in Scotland), i love the light on this one: http://pnco.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/dsc_0292.jpg
    The only thing i was doing, is trying not to get too much brightness and as a reward i got the beautiful blue colored reflection on the foreground :)

    March 18, 2014
    • Yes, the macro function on the phone is pretty good, I have to admit that. Though I think a macro lens on my camera might be even better. Hopefully will find out this week. Oh yes, the light conditions, that is the thing I have found with mine too. I have the Samsung Galaxy S3.

      I like the panoramas, you will have to tell me how you do them. I want to see if I can do them too. It is an app.
      I like the one you did, it is really cool.

      March 18, 2014
  3. Jackie Saulmon Ramirez #

    The water wall was interesting. :) I remember when the “best” camera had 3.0 megapixels and now they are much better than that. Technology, cameras and call phones included, have grown by leaps and bounds in quality and capability. It’s really astounding.

    March 18, 2014
    • I liked how the image came out with the water wall. Oh yes, they used to be so bad. They really have come a long way, and there are so many camera apps now, you can do lots of fun stuff. Thanks Jackie.

      March 18, 2014
  4. I’m not a photographer. I just follow you because I like you pictures. From what I’ve seen though the equipment isn’t as important as the photographer. People with skill take some great photos on their phones and I’ve also seen some pretty bad pictures taken on better equipment. But, having said that, no matter how good camera phones got, I would not be happy to hire a photographer that used one.

    March 18, 2014
    • Thank you Nikki, love to hear that. I think I might have to agree with you here, skill is important, even though all you do is press the button on the phone, you still need to know how to compose an image. I would be so upset if it were my wedding and that happened, well, if I hired any photographer that showed up with a camera phone to take the photos.

      March 18, 2014
  5. Andrew McNamara #

    The phone camera opens up a lot of opportunities – you nearly always have it with you, and using it is far less obtrusive. I’m regularly surprised at how good the images are from my phone… provided there’s plenty of even light, nothing is moving, and the subject fits in the frame well.

    Phone cameras won’t kill the DSLR, but they will raise the bar for compact cameras which, in turn, will raise the bar for DSLRs. I can see both compact cameras and, to a lesser extend, DSLRs struggling to gain enough market share to sustain the necessary advances.

    March 18, 2014
    • I agree Andrew, I agree on all those points, if the situations are perfect, it can be great.
      I think phone cameras will probably put compact cameras out of the competition, will replace them. I think there will always be a place for DSLRs, especially as so many people think more serious photographers use them and professionals, so want to be like them. I could never replace my DSLR with my phone, you just don’t get enough control, that is what frustrates me. Thanks for your thoughts here Andrew, I just looked at your name and realised who you were.

      March 18, 2014
      • Andrew McNamara #

        Compact cameras like the Canon G12 or G15 give a lot of manual control, and produce stunning images. The limiting factor with most digital cameras is now the optics, and good optics take space, so the larger cameras will continue to have an advantage over phones for the foreseeable future.

        Far less clear is what effect interchangeable lens “DSLR killer” mirrorless cameras will have on the DSLR market. While many of them currently have annoying flaws, I think this is temporary. The mirrorless cameras have significant advantages over DSLRs in terms of usability, speed, size, weight, and cost, and there is no reason why they cannot produce images just as good as (or better than) DSLRs. Some manufacturers are starting to get very serious about them.

        March 18, 2014
      • I don’t know those cameras the Canon ones you are talking about, but I have been seeing some great Bridge cameras, which are like an in between camera. They can take some great photos, and many people find them easy to use, and they have more control over what they are taking. Optics, I assume you mean lenses, I have spent big money on my lenses, and the quality you get from them can’t be matched with a compact or a phone.

        Oh yes, the mirrorless, it is going to be interesting to see what happens there. I think the professionals will always use DSLRs, though you don’t see many using medium format anymore, so who knows what will happen. I have a woman in my class now using a mirrorless, and it is hard to see how it is different to a DSLR. Some are getting very serious about them, the woman in my class had a Sony one.

        March 18, 2014
  6. Jenny Overton #

    I love my Nokia 1020. I was happy with my retro flip phone that I had for many years then I started to see results from other people phones. The main reason I bought a DSLR was to learn about photography. I love my camera but I still have a lot to learn and the Phone is great for everyday walk about and in the moment shots. I believe Canon is not going to produce the little point and shoot cameras as people are happy with their phones.

    March 18, 2014
    • I think camera phones can be quite good, and I also think you getting the DSLR was a great idea too, we will work on your learning to use it properly. I hadn’t heard that about Canon, but I am not at all surprised. I wouldn’t worry about a compact now, my phone is always with me. Thank you Jenny.

      March 18, 2014
  7. I have an iPhone 5C. I’m an Apple fanatic so if anyone who reads this hates apple you can stop reading now. :P I’m always taking pics with my phone. About 3 years ago I had taken a picture of sunflowers and recently uploaded it into photoshop and created a fun image. Sometimes I use filters in-phone which is always fun. I used to interact more with sites such as Facebook posting them, but I’ve backed off of that because I’m social media inundated. So now unless one is really good, I don’t do anything with the photo. Strange. i never thought about that until now! Why do I have this thing anyway? lol I love the convenience of it. I find that it gets me to see things and to frame things more quickly which translates to my DSLR in that I get more practice. I don’t like that it’s so pixelated when enlarged just a bit but I do love its handiness…for all those photos I delete! ;)

    March 18, 2014
    • OH no, that might mean me too, haha, ;) (I have to talk to you about Apple, we should see if we can organise a chat) I agree with you say about the translation to the DLSR, that is always good, see whether it is worth coming back with the better camera. I love the fun of it, but that is about it really. Thanks Laura, thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.

      March 18, 2014
      • lol….if you’d like to chat about apple, or anything else, we should schedule one soon. (I’m an ex-PC user since 2009 and will never go back.) It’s getting busier with this upcoming move, plus some other events, but I would love to chat! My skype name is lauramacky so you can add me there if you like. I have my post ready for tomorrow. I’ll send it to you once I’ve posted tomorrow morning. :)

        March 18, 2014
      • Yes, we should do that, just need to work out a time that is good for you, and me. We could do a google hangout too. I haven’t really used skype, I have it, but haven’t used it. I don’t even know if I have a skype name. Will check it out.
        We have had about 21 entries for the challenge so far, so less than week, by one, but I think we will probably get a couple more before I publish tomorrow. It is very popular, which is great.

        March 18, 2014
      • Of course google hangout. I forgot that we both have google accounts lol. Wow 22 entries is fantastic! I can’t wait to see what people have come up with.

        March 18, 2014
      • Yes, that would be good. Yes, 22 is fantastic, I wonder if I will get more overnight. There are some great images.

        March 18, 2014
  8. I agree with your thinking 100%. I love the camera on my phone, but it rarely competes with my main camera. One app I love using on my phone images is Snapseed. It’s such a great photo editor and it’s free. I’ve actually become hooked on doing HDR with it lately.

    March 18, 2014
    • I haven’t hear of Snapseed Shane, is it android or Apple? I would like to check it out. I agree with how you see your cameras, I feel the same way, my DSLR will always be my preferred camera, unless something major changes. Thanks.

      March 18, 2014
      • Yes, Snapseed is on both android and Apple. You have to give it a try, it’s like a mini Lightroom. I believe it’s designed by Nik Software.

        March 18, 2014
      • I will, I will download it tonight, thanks for getting back to me Shane.

        March 18, 2014
      • Oh yes, Nik Software.

        March 18, 2014
  9. hawaygeordie #

    Leanne, I own a couple of DSLRs and a point and shoot, as well as an Android phone which has a reasonable camera. While I always prefer to use a DSLR camera because I can adjust the mode and the settings to get the perfect exposure, I do occasionally use my P & S camera. I rarely use my phone camera because the result is often disappointing re focus, white balance, shutter speed etc. However, I came across this app the other week. It’s called Camera FV-5 and it allows me change just about all of the settings on the touch screen. How about we have a regular segment where we post images produced by our phones? I like the quality of your images and I’m sure there are many more photographers out there who can capture great images using just their phones. I’ll get out there today and take a few to start the ball rolling. What do you think?

    March 18, 2014
    • Where will we post them? Are you suggesting I do another day like I do for the monochrome madness challenge, or maybe we could start a LCP community, where people can post their photos on google+, that would probably be better. See what we come up with.
      I agree, I think my preferred camera will always be my DSLR, I can’t imagine not having the same amount of control that I have with it. I might have to check out that app, and try it out. Thanks again.

      March 18, 2014
  10. My camera phone is ok. I have android, too. The only thing it’s really bad at is low lighting. I mean it makes all night or darker pictures have a purple haze to them. I can’t stand it! Nothing I do on my phone makes it better either. Oh well…I do like the convenience of the camera phone.

    March 18, 2014
    • Oh yes, I took some photos with my phone at night at the Docklands the other night and they were rubbish. I think I will delete them. The convenience is good, and it can be good to take a photo and try out compositions then see if it is worth going back with DSLR. Thanks Em.

      March 18, 2014
  11. pausesandclicks #

    Great discussion to start! I found that I wasn’t taking my “big camera” out as often as I would like to and as a result, had stopped really noticing the world I lived in. My life as a military spouse had gotten very busy and my photography had taken a back seat! When I got my iPhone I realized I now had a camera with me at all times so I made a conscious decision to post an Instagram a day on my FB page. As I result, I’ve now posted over 1100 daily Instagrams, each and every one of them taken on the day they were posted. The result? I’ve started “seeing” my world again. I also print them out and give them to random people and many people are amazed to find out they were taken with my phone. I was trained as a traditional black and white photographer when I got me BFA back in the late 70’s and I love the spontaneity that the phone gives me with cropping, borders and filters. Back in college none of that happened!

    March 18, 2014
    • I like that challenge you did, what a great idea. It is true, when you are taking photos constantly you do see the world around you more, you notice things that other people don’t. Thank you for sharing your experience here, and what you do, that is fantastic.

      March 18, 2014
  12. Jen #

    My phone camera is nice to have because, as you noted, it’s always with me—but it is my last choice for shooting anything. On mine the images tend to be a little grainy and sort of glowing, and for some reason I have a difficult time getting my already-shaky hands to hold it in the right way to get a crisp shot; it’s just too slender and awkward. The control is just not there in a variety of ways. They have their uses, but again, they are just not my first choice—and to a wedding! Gracious. It is bad enough (in my opinion—it looks so bad in the professional photos and people are so busy taking photos with their phones they miss the event) that family & friends take cellphone photos at weddings—to hear that pros are doing it actually strikes a chill into my heart!

    March 18, 2014
    • I find the shaky hands a problem too, I don’t really have shaky hands, unless I’ve had too much coffee, but I find it really awkward and very easy to move it when I am taking photos. It isn’t my first choice either, actually when I am taking photos with DSLR I rarely think of using my phone, even for fun.
      I have to agree with everything you have said about weddings, it is very scary. Thanks Jen.

      March 18, 2014
      • Jen #

        Forgot to mention this—I actually so dislike using my cellphone camera that I carry a small PowerShot in my purse most of the time, especially if I don’t have my DSLR with me! So…there we are. Gosh, I guess I really dislike my poor phone’s camera…!

        March 19, 2014
      • I was doing something similar, but now I just use my phone, I am hoping to get a new phone soon and the camera in the one I want is supposed to be quite good, so hopefully, some great shots to come.

        March 19, 2014
  13. Nothing wrong with a camera phone, its capable to convert light to an “image “. However most likely it would not be high enough quality for a satisfactory print from technical quality stand point. After all, I am after a print not an image on screen. There for I would not “work ” with the camera phone. Besides, I like to keep the battery for phone calls.

    I do use my phone for illustrative purposes.

    March 18, 2014
    • That is true, the quality at the end is another problem. My phone doesn’t cope well when there is a strong light source, like photographing into the sun, you end up with an image that is half white, sadly. I love why you don’t use you camera on your phone, haha. I think it can be fun, and if I see something when I am out and don’t have the DSLR I will see what it looks like with the phone and then decide whether to go back with the other camera. Thanks for your thoughts here.

      March 18, 2014
  14. Some phones do take nice pictures, but they are nothing like a DSLR camera. I think actual cameras like DSLRs are better because they zoom into an image more and with a DSLR it is easier to have an actual focal point and make the foreground or background blurry or not.

    March 18, 2014
    • I agree Adreana, they certainly aren’t. Oh yes the zooming, I forgot about that, you loose so much quality when you zoom with a phone. Yes, that is true, you have so much more control on your depth of field with a DSLR, you can control most things so much more. Thank you.

      March 18, 2014
  15. I agree with all the points you’ve made Leanne. I also find that the iPhone isn’t great in low light. The most recent IOS upgrade has improved on low light photography but still not great. I do love having a camera with me all the time as I don’t always carry my DSLR with me. I’ve gotten a bit addicted to instagram and I also love taking a picture of my DSL set up when doing long exposures.

    March 18, 2014
    • I am the same Edith, I don’t carry my DSLR with me all the time, like I do with my phone. I have just got back into instagram. Oh oh, I have one of those, I took a photo of my camera set up at sunrise in Lorne, did you see it, but I think that is the only time I have done it. I have an android phone and I find it is crap in low light too, you seem to only get half the image. Thanks Edith.

      March 18, 2014
  16. If the phone cameras ever got to that point, can you imagine the prices they would have attached??

    March 18, 2014
    • That is a great point Jodi, they would be so expensive.

      March 18, 2014
  17. Oops and I meant to say I have Photo Studio HD on my iPhone. Not sure if there is an Android app but it beats snapseed hands down.

    March 18, 2014
    • Haha, really, is that so, is this where I stick my tongue out at you and put my hands on my hips. haha.

      March 18, 2014
  18. I’ve been using my iPhone exclusively for several years now. There are many apps that you can use to fine-tune your photos, like SnapSeed and PhotoWizard, or Laminar Pro. You have a lot more control than you think by doing some post processing. Panoramic images are considerably easier on an iPhone using AutoStitch than a DSL.

    March 18, 2014
    • I knew there would be people that did, and I am sure there are ways around stuff, but I love my DSLR, so that will be my main camera for some time, but I know there are apps for the phone that I haven’t used or tried to use, Thanks for you input too.

      March 18, 2014
      • I also forgot to mention the many excellent camera apps that I use for image capture, such as: Pro 645, and ProCamera. These apps give you a lot of control of exposure, focus, white balance , etc. These apps give you more control than Apple’s camera app. If I go back to a more traditional camera, I’ll be moving to the mirror less cameras, such as the Olympus or FujiiFilm cameras. My DSLR days are over.

        March 19, 2014
      • I love my DSLR, could never give it up. Though I have been hearing great things about the mirrorless, but that basically the same, just a lot smaller, will be interesting to see what happens with them. I haven’t gone into apps on the phone much, well I use Android, but most apps seem to be for Apple, because everyone apparently has one of those, I’m off the soapbox now.

        March 19, 2014
  19. I feel the same way about my camera as a phone. I use it to post updates like when I was in Florida during a tropical storm and shot a picture of all the chairs in the hotel pool.

    March 18, 2014
    • I think it is perfect for that sort of thing too. Thanks Dawn.

      March 18, 2014
  20. I have blogged about this on my own blog and commented at length on 500px, only to get trashed and browbeaten by the iPhone worms (as I call them). Not only will the phone camera never beat a DSLR, for the most part it will not beat the good point & shoot. Scott Kelby made mention a few weeks back on the Grid about the p&s industry being in danger of losing out to the camera phone, but I think he was right & wrong. People (for the most part) are too lazy to carry a camera and they’ll make do with what is in their phone. You only need 72-100 dpi to make an image look good on a phone or monitor. Take those iPhone pics and try to print them larger than a snapshot. My clients want digital images, but they also want those prints… big prints. Another failing point (big time) for the phone camera is… it is designed to be used as a phone (hello). Phone camera vs P&S, the p&s wins every time when it comes to ease changing ISO, Av, Tv, zooming and more. Sure you can make changes with the camera phone as you fumble with the screen, then add the elements like a little rainy drizzle or some snow and the camera phone is not so much fun any more and the guy next you with a Powershot just got a better photo in a just a few seconds and went on his merry way. As much as I could go on and on about it there are iPhone users reading this just cringing saying “how dare you dis thou iPhone.”
    Myself I have an Android, a good point & shoot and a few Canon DSLR’s. One DSLR is for work and the other a back up and I use it for everyday stuff. In all fairness like you Leanne I am a photographer so I love my DSLR and my 70-200 lens you will have to pull from my cold dead hand lol.
    My camera phone plays the role of taking snapshots and quick little videos, great for documenting. This in my opinion is the best role of the phone camera, documenting all kinds of things, like checking prices of products for comparison shopping, had a fender bender with the car the uses are limitless.
    My point & shoot can shoot RAW and I use it in personal situations, maybe I’m out walking the dog, or just hanging with family & friends.

    So that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

    March 18, 2014
    • Well I like your story and you should stick to it. There are always going to be people who think the iphone is the way to go, but then they are more likely to think that the iphone is the best thing in the world, give me android any day. I really dislike companies that think they know what is more important to me.
      Okay, I’m off the soapbox. I really think you have made some great points. I hate using my phone in the sun, you can’t see what you are taking, or what you have taken until you get into some shade. I want to decide what my focal point is. I also think if you showed up to a gig as a professional photographer with a phone, then you wouldn’t get treated very well, and everyone would be saying they could do that too. Thank you Lenzwizard, you won’t get shouted at here for your opinion, this is a moderated site and I don’t tolerate nastiness. Difference of opinion is fine as long as it done nicely.

      March 18, 2014
  21. As it happens, I just posted something shot with my Samsung Note II.

    http://disperser.wordpress.com/2014/03/17/dispersers-st-patricks-day-2014/

    Frankly, I used to think phone cameras as very limited. I don’t think so any more, and I’ve integrated the phone photos into my blog (http://bit.ly/NpHpLb). Those are all the posts in my blog that have phone camera photos.

    I’m not asking anyone to go look; I’m only providing it for anyone who wants to have an idea of what can be done with a phone camera (and others do much more).

    If you only want to look at one post . . . http://bit.ly/NpHTkB

    I think it is very possible we will see the lower-end DSLRs disappear, leaving us with only the pro-sumer and pro-cameras. There is already a phone with 42MP resolution (http://nokia.ly/NpIcvH) . . . that’s more than my camera (and yes, I know there are other considerations)

    The iPhone already has lenses you can buy to improve the picture taking (yes, you attach them to the phone).

    One more comment . . . I go everywhere with my DSLR camera and lenses. I gladly lug 15-20 pounds of gear wherever I go . . . except, recently I evaluate if I will really use all that. More and more I just walk out with just my phone.

    For them who don’t know me, I’m a bit of an anal retentive guy . . . it takes a fair amount to satisfy my desire for good photos . . . right now, depending of the situation, the phone camera meets my needs. Sometimes it does so better than the DSLR I love so much. So, again . . . not yet; my DSLR is by far the first go-to camera, but I can’t discount a day when that may not be the case.

    March 18, 2014
    • Thanks disperser, and thanks for the links, always interesting to see, did you do any post processing with them. Sorry I only looked, I didn’t read.
      I think there is a place for the phone, I love that I always have it with me. I don’t know that the low end DSLRs will disappear, maybe for mirrorless, but I think there is still the image that people like, the image that they are serious photographer because they have that camera. I do think the compact will disappear. I don’t see much difference between the compact and the phone anymore. I think when it comes to printing though, not sure how the phone goes.
      Thanks for all thoughts here.

      March 18, 2014
      • There is always some processing, either on the phone or in Lightroom, but that’s the same for DSLR photos.

        That said, there is less processing on the phone photos because the phone already does some processing, and additional stuff is not often an improvement (unless doing special effects).

        The compacts are cheaper than many phones (and also more rugged), and therefore I think they will hang around. The reason I think the low end DSLR will go is because they will face pressure from both the compacts and the phones, and both continue to improve in quality and resolution.

        I read a few of the comments above, and I want to clarify phones will not replace the cameras of people who are professionals (i.e. sell photos), especially if they are dealing with clients . I don’t think I would want to pay a professional photographer who shows up with a phone, no matter how good the phone.

        For professionals, the DSLR and changeable lenses are both tools and a badge that helps them be recognized as serious photographers.

        Let me also address a point you made . . . people who buy the lower end DSLRs do not typically invest the time and effort to master them (observation from my experience – I’ve lost track of the number of times people ask me if they know how to operate their camera). Also my observation, people who buy low end cameras use them pretty much as point-and-shoots, and most are surprised they are not able to get “better pictures” now that they have a DSLR.

        That’s the ‘better equipment = better photos” myth. Better photos come from practice and willingness to invest the time in getting them, but most people think they can “buy” skill.

        When I am asked “What kind of camera should I buy”, my first question is “How much time are you willing to invest in photography, both the taking and the processing?”

        After some talking, my usual recommendation is a Point-and-Shoot.

        March 18, 2014
      • I wondered if you had done some post processing, it looked like you had, no criticism, just curiousity.
        Great comments Disperser, I like everything you have said.
        I agree to that lower end DSLR buyers don’t bother learning to use them, mostly, but they do like the look of the camera, that is what I find, they like to think they fit a certain image, according to my husband that is people buy iphones.
        Thanks you.

        March 18, 2014
  22. I use my iPhone often and have taken some great pictures (http://ronboire.com/2013/11/03/newark-penn-station/ and http://ronboire.com/2013/10/25/edgartown-harbor-storm-iphone-art/) are good examples. Both of these shots were inspired by the composition (as all good shots are) and I knew I could make something fun in black and white. The editing was done in Lightroom and Silver Efex – fast and fun.

    March 18, 2014
    • I don’t doubt you can get good images with the phone, but it seems the conditions have to be right. I like playing the camera on my phone, but I can’t see it replacing my DSLR. Great shots by the way, how come you didn’t send one of them for the challenge?

      March 18, 2014
  23. I have an Iphone and the only photos I take with it are for my job. I think that the cam phone does offer enough versatility if the conditions are too bright or dark but can still take some good photos. But it is definitely easy to carry on a bike ride and I always have it on me.
    If I want to travel light in terms of cam, I much prefer a small point and shoot cam, some model fit very well in a pocket and they do offer more versatility.

    March 18, 2014
    • Thanks Nelson, great to hear how you use the camera on your phone.

      March 18, 2014
  24. Great post, and lovely images! I started my blog as strictly android photography and found it an interesting challenge and a great learning experience. Of course, within six months I got bored with the phone camera’s limitations and got a DSLR, but I still have a fondness for those phone images. :-) Shot in HDR and wide-frame, mobile photos can be quite interesting! Last spring on a trip to London/Paris, I shot all mobile photography, 1,500 images, and loved it. The downside is they (or my Droid, anyway) are poor in low light situations. I’ve seen some wonderful Iphone photography blogs — worth checking out if you have time. Thank you for posting about the under appreciated art! :-)

    March 18, 2014
    • I think there is a place for phone photography, I just don’t know exactly where, my daughter says phone photography is about the now, and I think she is right about that. I do photos with phone, an android too, but it does drive me crazy too, like trying to see what I am taking when the sun is shining on it, or then trying to see what I got. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

      March 18, 2014
      • Yes, trying to see the screen while focusing and composing is the worst. I got pretty good at it. By the time I got a DSLR and looked through that viewfinder, I felt I’d mastered my composition skills. It was good to learn with a phone camera then move to the DSLR – art before technical, so to speak. I can see how going the other way would very much seem like a downgrade!

        March 18, 2014
      • That is interesting Sharon, I hadn’t thought of it like that. Good point.

        March 18, 2014
      • :-)

        March 18, 2014
  25. A camera body, and a photo capable phone basically serve the same function as a recording device. The real difference is the lens. I don’t think there would be much argument regarding optical comparison. But I agree the phone is a wonderful convenient jack of all trades recording device but when I want to photographically master the subject I turned to my camera’s high quality attached optics.

    March 18, 2014
    • It is a very convenient thing to have, I think that is the way I will always look at it. I don’t think there would be much argument for that either. Thank you.

      March 18, 2014
  26. Hey Leanne … I have just read through a couple of comments. Seems I am a bit outdated! Whoops. iPhone for me but I do so love my camera.

    March 18, 2014
    • I love my camera too, I like the phone for fun, but my other stuff will always be taken with the DSLR. Thanks Julie.

      March 18, 2014
  27. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 3, which is an Android, but it’s larger than a cell regular phone or iPhone. I got this because I don’t want to cramp my hands or strain my eyes with a smaller device. I never had a cell phone and only got this because I can run credit card transactions on it at shows and festivals. I actually find it very annoying as it is always asking for some sort of attention.

    I use it most often to take reference photos for future paintings or of the subjects of paintings and sketches as I work in case I can’t finish. I also photograph things I’ll be using on the internet, such as the frame on a painting I want to sell, or small merchandise.

    First, now and then I get a stunning photo. But for the most part the photos are, for the most part, abysmal and inflexible. Bright light, as you said, can be fun if you like glare and flashed-out areas, but it really just gets in the way. I’m also a commercial artist and suddenly a few years ago people started sending me cell phone then smartphone photos because “they look okay”. My problem with them is that their resolution is so low, and the electronics that capture the image are so elemental, that you can barely modify colors, the perspective is foreshortened or skewed, you can’t change contrasty areas.

    Unless they come up with one that can mimic all the lenses I have, it will be relegated to the when-I-have-to camera.

    March 18, 2014
    • My husband got the Note for the same reason.

      I agree with all the problems you find with it, I just see more problems, it could never replace my other camera. I love that camera too much, and I like the control I have of the image.
      Thanks Bernadette for sharing your thoughts here.

      March 18, 2014
  28. What is this “Up For Discussion”? I use three/ four cameras. A Nikon D 200, which I shall upgrade, an F75 when I shoot in B&W film, and two Coolpix cameras. I also use the phone camera once in a way – especially for selfies!

    March 18, 2014
    • Up for Discussion, the idea being I give you a topic, I start the discussion and you guys continue it. Well that is the idea.
      I use my cameras the same way, wait, I don’t take selfies, ;) Thanks.

      March 18, 2014
  29. I asked my daughter about using the camera on her phone, and she said it is all about the now.

    Good point

    March 18, 2014
  30. The best camera is the one you have with you. My iPhone has captured images when a DSLR couldn’t be around. Are they the quality of my 36mp A7r, no. Good enough to capture the moment and use online, yes. If you always have a camera with you, there is a better chance of capturing a gem. Camera phones will not replace the DSLR but the compact camera is doomed.

    March 18, 2014
    • I agree Sally, with everything you have said, thank you.

      March 18, 2014
  31. I am no profressional photographer as yourself, but wow those “fun” shots look amazing to me! So true, we always have a camera, who doesn’t always have their phone on them. Although, it is on my list to get a profressional camera this year.

    March 18, 2014
    • The fun shots are fun, they are grainy and there are issues with them, a lot of them aren’t in focus, because I find it very hard to focus the camera, something about pressing the button to take the photo I think, I find it awkward. It is good that it is always on me though. I hope you get that camera next year. Good luck. Thanks Pamilla.

      March 18, 2014
  32. Interesting collection of images….love the one of the hospital ….really balanced composition. Phone camera vs camera…..I think sometimes I just happen to have my phone handy (android) when im not really expecting anything to appear but it does and I snap! And think yep nice one. I love my camera and find it mostly more satisfying to work with …..great conversation really appreciate everyones comments and thoughts : ) Trees

    March 18, 2014
    • Thank you Trees, I think I use my phone the same way you do, it can just be convenient because it is with me.

      March 18, 2014
  33. I love my iPhone!!! I have taken some great snapshots with it. Keyword being snapshot…I don’t think it will ever replace my DSLR.

    March 18, 2014
    • I have taken some great snaps with my phone too, and like you said they are just snaps. Thanks.

      March 18, 2014
  34. I have a Blackberry with a camera that I have never used. Having used film all my life until 18 months ago I now carry a Canon S100 everywhere. This is what produces my blog photos. You see, I remember what digital photography first looked like! Maybe I’ll try some comparison shots. Thanks for a thought provoking post.

    March 18, 2014
    • You are welcome, it is an interesting topic, I feel the same way, my camera will always be my DSLR. Thanks Derrick.

      March 18, 2014
  35. I use my phone camera a lot for the unexpected. It’s a Sony Experia chosen for its great camera – far better than i phones, but it still doesn’t come close to my dslr.

    March 18, 2014
    • I use mine the same way too, I see something when I am out and wish I had the DSLR, so I get out the phone. Thanks Gypsy.

      March 18, 2014
  36. Interesting this…..I don’t use my phone camera nearly enough……and I’ll admit to there being a bit of a camera snobbery/mental block thing going on……which is just silly I know. I think I need to make more of an effort on this front. I don’t think camera phones will replace DSLRs or MCSCs because of the lens quality and flexibility that these offer…..but I’m sure they will eventually kill off the point and shoot compacts, in fact they’ve already done significant damage to sales in this area.

    March 18, 2014
    • I think many of us would have to admit to the camera snobbery ;) I like using it for fun, and it is great when I don’t have anything available. I agree, I don’t think they will replace them either. Thank you Mark, I look forward to seeing some images coming from your phone.

      March 18, 2014
  37. I think mobile cameras have come a long way and mobile companies are vying everyday to come up with better optics in compact form. Not just the cameras, its also the apps that are getting better day by day. the end effect can be pretty nice!!!
    Mobile phones can never compete with DSLRs, even Point and Shoots, but they have their own utility. For someone as click happy as me it helps me capture some random moments in day to day life, inconspicuously. I miss that instant utility in s DSLR.
    I love my Nokia Lumia 720 to death and all the fab Nokia Apps that help in post processing. They can turn an ordinary image into fabulous and add depth and meaning to it.
    I think mobile phone cameras will not win awards for you or will never be technically brilliant. But if photography is your passion, and you are forever keen on capturing the randomness that goes on around you.

    March 18, 2014
    • More great thoughts Solioquy, this has been a great post, lots of ideas. I agree with you too, thank you.

      March 18, 2014
  38. I have the iPhone 5 and I do some iphonephotography. There are sites and blogs dedicated just for iPhone pics. I’m not using the iPhone camera. I use camera apps, such as HDR PRO and VSCO. In addition to that, I use snapseed to edit the pictures. It gives you some great results and sometimes I get a better pic of certain subjects than with my Nikon. I think the future looks great for phone photography although limited. I think the DSLR camera makers will soon be running apps like snapseed in their cameras for editing and special effects etc. I think that after seeing your post and pics, that I will post some of my iPhone pics soon. Great discussion.

    March 18, 2014
    • Thank you, it is an interesting discussion. I’ve seen people who shoot solely with their phones, and nothing wrong with that, but I like the control I have over the picture taking. I think there are those apps already for the DSLR, but not in camera, they are on the computer in the form of plugins and actions, I use them from time to time, they are very interesting.

      March 18, 2014
  39. thatnavaword #

    i use my phone a lot more than my camera.. mostly cause the camera is big and bulky and im always worried about getting mugged. My phone is great, it does take a mazing quality pics, but it’s still not a camera

    March 18, 2014
    • I know that feeling, I have mine insured, but I still don’t want it stolen. I like to go out in groups, but that isn’t always possible. I agree, I like the photos with my camera more than my phone. Thank you.

      March 18, 2014
  40. Phone cameras have their place, for sure. They can sometimes produce good images – I’ve taken shots with my phone that have surprised and pleased me.The phone is handy of course for those chance moments, particularly with their ability to capture video as well.

    As one of your readers mentioned above, the phone camera’s strengths are probably for macros and panoramas. I have other cameras/lenses that do both those types of photography better than the phone, but they are not always with me. In fact, anything my phone can do my other cameras can do better (sometimes vastly so – most phone images don’t stand up to close scrutiny – I don’t mind pixel peeping, just a good close look at the dynamic range, colour depth, detail and so on) – except instantly back up and load straight from the device to the web. Even with this there are cameras now that will do those things, but all of my gear is a generation or more behind (which is fine with me).

    March 18, 2014
    • I meant to say “I don’t MEAN pixel peeping” – I actually do mind it a lot!

      March 18, 2014
      • Still not sure what it means. haha.

        March 18, 2014
    • I have done the same with my phone as well. They are great for getting the now, that is what my daughter reckons.

      I haven’t heard that term before, pixel peeping??
      I find the same, the photos can look great on the phone, and in small images on the computer but when you start to make them bigger, they usually become very pixelated, and don’t look as good. My phone loads my photos straight to the web, then it also loses some. Weird. Thank you so much.

      March 18, 2014
  41. Great artical Leanne, I think phone cameras have their role to play in photography, as you say, most people carry a phone with them and do not have access to a DSLR to capture an image if it presents itself. With some smartphones coming on the market having 40 megapixels or more, these will suffice to capture a nice image if a DSLR is not handy.

    I use the phone camera to capture less important subjects that don’t need high res or to just record an event for the record. Maybe that fish you just landed and want to brag to your mates. One thing I do like is the ability to Geotag images, although some DSLR`s can do this as well.

    I think that the best camera to use is the one you have with you, as long as you are capturing images any type is fine.

    Doug.

    March 18, 2014
    • Thank you Doug, I think a few people have felt the same, that the best camera is the one you have with you. I think I agree with that too, I like that idea.

      March 18, 2014
      • On the other side of the coin, how about a SmartDSLR with inbuilt internet access, loaded with Apps, being able to post directly to WordPress, Facebook, etc.
        I know you can connect DSLR`s via WiFi, why not cut out the middle man. Might get some funny looks talking into your camera though. Just a thought…….

        March 19, 2014
      • I don’t mind not having that, I think it would take so long to upload the photos from the camera with wifi, at least at my house it would. It takes long enough from the card straight to the computer. I don’t know, I think we have all those apps but they are plugins and actions and things, I wouldn’t use them on the camera, I am usually thinking of just getting the photos, and I do the other part when I get back, I want to see them on the big screen. That is me though, I am sure you will start to see a lot more of those things in time.
        Talking to your camera, well if it happens, I will video you doing it. LOL Thanks

        March 19, 2014
  42. I have a very old Samsung phone that takes really bad photos, looking to upgrade to a better Samsung android soon. Sometimes I upload photos to Instagram from my phone. Usually I don’t like using the filters, they just don’t cut it for me I suppose. The photos you took with your phone look nice, especially the hospital one. I think it’s a matter of luck and the beauty of the location that makes phone photos look good, most of the time.

    Don’t know if camera phones will replace DSLRs. Haven’t played around too much with the latter, but I am so excited to get a new camera soon :)

    March 18, 2014
    • Yes, I had phones like that, I have the Samsung Galaxy S3 and it isn’t bad, but I am hoping to upgrade to the s5 soon. I think you are right, it is a matter of luck and really most of the time the conditions have to be perfect too.
      I don’t think they will replace DSLRs, I think you will find professionals will continue using them. I am excited for you, how exciting. :)

      March 18, 2014
      • Ah, I’m looking to upgrade to the s4 soon, one step behind you. A lot of the images I take with my phone come out dark. The lighting’s always hard to get right.

        I will probably get my camera sometime next month, just before my birthday. Have decided to get something that allows me to change lenses :)

        March 18, 2014
      • The s4 is a good phone too, I love samsung phones.

        I think it is a good decision to get a camera like that, it can be a pain changing lenses, but it is nice to have the option. I look forward to seeing what you get. :)

        March 18, 2014
  43. I have a camera on my s4 mini, I must say the quality doesn’t come to scratch like on the iPhone 4! I do have a dslr too, I’m still learning how to use it as there are so many functions to learn x

    March 18, 2014
    • I don’t really know about the iphone, but I love my DSLR, and maybe like Mark suggested, maybe I am a snob about. Thank you Carrie-Ann.

      March 18, 2014
      • I’m learning to love my DSLR they do take much better quality pictures and you can work with them in photo shop. You are welcome

        March 18, 2014
      • That is fantastic, I agree, I like that I have lots of pixels for Photoshop.

        March 19, 2014
  44. I have an old flip-phone. The camera there is useless and I never use it for anything.

    I’ve seen a lot of camera photos posted on G+ and blogs and very often I’ve asked myself: “Why would people post such crap?”
    In those cases I react because the quality of the images are way below my standards. They’re often blurry, grainy, the white balance is totally wrong or the exposure is wrong (way too light or way too dark).

    Based on this I don’t feel that I need a camera phone, but of course: it’s also possible that the photos that I’ve seen are bad because the photographer doesn’t know what he/she is doing. Even the fanciest DLSR can’t make a bad photographer create great pictures.

    March 18, 2014
    • I remember the cameras on those older phones, they were pretty hopeless and so hard to get off the phone.
      I have to agree, you see the same on facebook, lots of photos of just crap. I think the worse part is that people don’t often realise that their images are crap, that is really sad.
      I think you can get good photos or snaps on a camera phone, but that is it, for me anyway. Thanks Cardinal. I have started getting the post ready for tomorrow and your image is most definitely there this time.

      March 18, 2014
      • I agree that for snaps it’s sufficient with a phone. It seems to me that many phones have cameras that might as well could have found in some pocket cameras, and then it’s better to have the pocket camera integrated in the phone.

        I’m looking forward to see your post tomorrow. I’ve been working on a B&W post for tomorrow as well.

        March 19, 2014
      • I agree with your there Cardinal, it is better to have that option. You can do a lot with phone cameras these days and it is great to have it with you all the time. I like the video option too. When I am taking my daughter out driving and if a car is tail gating or doing something stupid, I record them with my phone, they can see that I am doing it and then back off, it is great that way.

        The post is up I hope you have seen it. That’s fantastic.

        March 19, 2014
  45. I have a Nokia Lumia 1020 Love it!

    March 18, 2014
  46. I like my android camera. I have a samsung galaxy s3 and i can say the camera performs very well. I don’t use instagram but i like to use the snapseed app to process the camera photos. You are right when you say that not all the photos have to be serious. :)
    But despite of all that i always carry my Fuji X10 in my bag.
    We never know when we will need a camera. ;)

    March 18, 2014
    • I have the same phone Raquel. I have just learned about snapseed, so am looking forward to experimenting with it more. Yes, I think photos can be fun, and why not.
      I don’t carry my DSLR with me, not all the time, but most of the time. That is so true, you just never know. Thank you.

      March 18, 2014
      • Oh you have to try Snapseed. I am sure you will love it. :)

        March 19, 2014
      • I put it on my phone yesterday, but haven’t had time to play yet.

        March 19, 2014
      • Let me know what you think about it after playing for a little bit. :)

        March 19, 2014
      • I will see if I can, thanks. I might need reminding though. :)

        March 19, 2014
  47. I have a DSLR, but it’s kinda heavy… and for everyday situations, which is the theme of my blog, it is seldom that I manage to go out and capture it with my big camera. So most of the photos on my blog actually come from my phone. I can definitely see a difference when I go out with my camera, and I still do that when I have time to spend on myself and my hobbies. I think it has made photography much more accessible to the average person.. and it also changes the way we communicate.

    March 18, 2014
    • My DSLR is heavy too, very heavy. It can be hard to always take it with you. I don’t take it around with me around here, but I do like to take it when I say go into the city, or go somewhere where I think I might be able to get some images. It did change photography, for the better, not so sure, not when you see the photos people post on facebook, haha, but I like the convenience of it, and it can be fun. Thanks Tina.

      March 18, 2014
      • I think a good photographer can manage to get out a good motive with just about any camera. It’s more the picture/scene that makes it a good shot, but then the editing and quality comes on top of that. I’ve seen some amazing things done with ‘crappy cameras’

        March 19, 2014
      • I have taken some thing with a crappy camera and got good shots, but I know if I compare what I get my DSLR with my phone, I know I will get a lot more good shots with the DSLR. I have got some good shots with the phone, but then I have so many on DSLR, for me that is what counts in the end. Oh, see how I just decided I was a good photographer, haha. Thanks Tina.

        March 19, 2014
      • Haha :D I won’t protest!

        March 19, 2014
      • Hahaha, thanks Tina. :)

        March 19, 2014
  48. Certainly camera phones have come a long way since they were first introduced. I agree that it is great to always have a camera handy as you never know when an image/situation may present itself. As we have discussed before with other aspects of photography – camera phones are just a tool to be used when appropriate for a specific effect and situation. I certainly don’t feel as if this experience is as second nature as my SLR – for me it is clunky and a bit of a struggle. Bottom line: glad I have it, but I would never trade in any of my real cameras for the images I get with my iPhone 5.

    March 18, 2014
    • They have, I will never forget going into the city one day and seeing the most amazing light being reflected off a building onto the clouds beside it. It was something I had never seen before or since. I didn’t have my camera with me, but I had an old phone, and I took some photos, then I couldn’t get the photos off my phone, and now they are lost and all I have is the memory. I am so glad phone/cameras have got so much better.
      I don’t like taking photos with the phone as much as I like taking them with the DSLR, so I am with you on that. I like your bottom line and think it would be mine too.
      Thanks Robert.

      March 19, 2014
  49. Cannot survive without my iPhone camera. In the right situation, good lighting, and using my legs as a zoom lens, I find it to be every bit as good as my D5000 and can even challenge my D800 occasionally. Snapseed is a blessing and it is amazing what you can do with the image after you put it in Lightroom. It can also go places my DSLR will not fit or is not permitted. Got to have a camera with me always so…

    March 18, 2014
    • Really you can control your ISO, you can change depth of field, work all that out on your phone? You get the great size files that you can then use them to do lots of manipulation and then print them really large? I am just asking, not criticising, I’m curious. I can’t do that with my phone. I would never substitute my phone for my DSLR. Interesting, thanks Robert.

      March 19, 2014
  50. I take 90% of my photos with my android phone. The other 10% with a cheap point and shoot camera. I started to be interested in photography and I guess that I will save up money for a DSLR or SLR but it will take some time.

    But talking about smartphone photography, I would say that I have a lot of experience already. I could give a lot of tips as I found a lot of things out in different situations. But after researching, I noticed it is just basic photography abc. so that it is not worth to mention here, I guess.

    What I like:

    I have the phone always with me and I could always shoot photos (as long as it is not too dark). If you work with the sun, you can create great images. Photoshop helps too (I love playing with levels and shadows and highlights) and the filters of some apps in the Google playstore are fun to play with too, if it must go fast.

    What I don´t like (or let me say so: what I start to demand, the more photos I take):

    1. I would like to play with different lenses (especially macro lenses). Way to go… DSLR or SLR
    2. Phone cameras have too less luminous sensitivity. Playing with iso can help to create good images at sunrise or sunset but if it´s too dark (night), then bad luck. Images will look noisy or simply too dark. And flashlight…
    3. Flashlight logically destroys all images and is no alternative when it´s dark. Frontal flashlight of the smartphone results in heavy reflections, overexposure, too strong highlights and red eyes. All the worse in one image that it´s hard to fix even with Photoshop. DSLR would win here too because of light equipment.
    4. Shutterspeed and shot sequence… don´t have to go into detail. DSLR win.
    5. Triggershot equipment… DSLR win.
    6. Resolution DSLR win.
    And so on…

    I guess I could go on with the list. To be honest, it´s possible to take fantastic photos with a smartphone but after years I noticed where the limitations are. But even then, shooting photos with the smartphone can be fun, otherwise I wouldn´t have done it for years now. I would suggest anybody to start the same way. It´s possible to learn some basic things and it is possible to create nice photos. But a DSLR or SLR comes with features I guess, that would open some new doors. I found out that photography could be my thing. I maybe will buy a decent camera some day, if there wouldn´t be another expansive hobby (A new guitar is on my list too) :D It´s hard but let´s see how I decide when the time has come.

    March 18, 2014
    • I like having that I always have my phone, so always have a camera as well.
      You have made some great point Dennis, and I think you have hit the nail on the head. I have no doubt you can get great images with your phone, but the conditions have to be right, I know I can get great images with DSLR no matter what the conditions are.
      Wow, how exciting if you get a DSLR, a whole new world for you. Good luck and thanks Dennis.

      March 19, 2014
      • Agree, the size of a phone and the fact that we have it always in our pockets, is the biggest advantage of smartphone photography. :)
        And right, you always need the right conditions. Even if I have not a DSLR yet, I am already so interested that I follow different blogs (like yours) or watch videos on YouTube that explain a lot of technical things about professional photography.

        I realized how much possibilities there are with real camera equipment and that you can take out many errors with additional “toys”. I saw for example videos about polarizer filters, backlight blends and so on. That made clear, I want to discover this so hard :D It´s interesting how you can control the conditions with a DSLR, and with smartphones it is different. There, the conditions control your possibilities. But anyway for learning, that taught me a lot, and I might need that knowledge someday, when I get my first DSLR. I´m simply more aware about conditions like illumination and so, now. This can be helpful later if I dive deeper into the subject with better equipment.

        Yep, it will be a new world for me. But after reading a lot and watching a lot of technical videos, I would say I am prepared. I´m always prepared if I touch anything :D But my money bag is not prepared yet. But the time will come. I am very patient due to all the expansive interests :)

        Thanks for wishing me luck Leanne. I wish you that too.

        March 19, 2014
      • Thank you Dennis, you are welcome. It sounds like you will be very prepared when you get that camera, I look forward to seeing what you do with it when it happens.

        March 19, 2014
  51. Great post Leanne and discussion-I use my iPhone almost exclusively right now for both blogs-I shoot at the highest resolution I can in order to process-I realize it is not for everyone, but I find the iPhone a tremendous creative tool-I still use my Nikon D50, but I am increasingly inspired by the phone art photography that I see out there-like with anything else, you are limited only I think by your imagination-

    March 19, 2014
    • I have an android phone, I don’t really play with the camera that much on it, but I am thinking I should, but it will never be for anything other than playing. My DSLR will always be my main cameras. Thank you.

      March 19, 2014
  52. I am still one of the few people I know that uses a “dumb” phone so I don’t have a lot of experience with phone cameras. I love the idea though, there’s plenty of times I leave my DSLR at home because it is too heavy or bulky and then end up wishing I had a camera. I’ve seen some impressive images taken with phone cameras but I feel like even images taken with newer phone cameras still have that “cameraphone” appearance to them. I can’t quite put my finger on why this is, but they just don’t seem to have the same “pop” that even photos taken with a point-and-shoot do. Maybe I’m just imagining it…

    That being said, off the top of my head I can think of a number of areas where any camera with a sensor small enough to fit in a phone will have a difficult time matching the performance of even a beginner-level DSLR. Low light performance would be one. I do a lot of astrophotography and I’ve yet to see a camera phone capable of taking a several minute long exposure.

    March 19, 2014
    • I have done the same Zach, left my good camera at home, but then I have the phone, though it in no way makes up for the DSLR. I get frustrated when I am out and the conditions aren’t great and the phone can’t deal with it. I like your reference to the cameraphone appearance, I think you are right there.
      The phones are crap in low light, they don’t cope at all, they also don’t cope if you have a strong light source like the sun facing you. I want to do some of that astrophotography, hoping to get into it more this year. Thanks Zach.

      March 19, 2014
  53. Phones with cameras are nothing more then another tool to take photos with, just like any other camera. I had a Nokia C6 and the camera was wonderful. Obviously, because of their sensor size, they are not going to be equal to a DSLR in many circumstances. Therefore, there really is no point to compare apples to oranges; that is, a DSLR to a camera phone. Putting a camera into a mobile device was a secondary thought. It was not the other way around. Good photos? What does “good” mean to you or anyone else? “Good” could mean wonderful IQ (tack sharp, great DR, low noise, etc.) Or, “good” could mean that the photograph tells a story, captures a moment. Obviouosly, both types of “good” are nice to have in every photo. But, we are dealing with a technology that has obvious limits because of its sensor. With that being said and with phone camera images in mind, what we should be after is the “good” that tells a story, shows emotion, is provacative, captures a moment. Who cares about the IQ. We are all far to concerned about IQ and that is why many scoff at the notion of camera phone photos being “photographs”. In the last Summer Olympics, a journalist used an iPhone and some extra lenses to capture some fine photographs. We all have to stop thinking that great photographs can only be captured by a $4000 DSLR cameras. I used to put up my mobile photos on a Nikon site and many people liked them. The camera does not matter, it is what is captured that matters.

    March 19, 2014
    • I agree with your there, you can’t really compare the two.
      I think the IQ does have to be important if you want to do more than just take images. For me it is very important because of what I want to do with that image after I have take it.
      I think you have made some good points, but again, I think it also depends on what the final outcome or what you intend to use the image for. My phone does not take photos that I think are good enough for what my work is about. That may not matter to other people, but it does to me. DSLR can be purchased for a lot less money than that. Thanks for you thoughts here.

      March 19, 2014
  54. I could not LIVE without my camera on my phone…. it serves as an inspiration, a reminder, a marker (to remember where I want to go back to with the DSLR)… and a quick share of what my eye is seeing…

    March 19, 2014
    • I like the way you use it, I had the S3 and the camera on it wasn’t great, I thought it was me, apparently some of them were like that, trust me to get one, but recently Samsung replaced it and the camera is much better, but I think I just don’t always think of it. Thanks for your comment.

      March 19, 2014
  55. What an interesting topic. I considered getting a better phone and just taking that traveling and then decided against it. I heard the images don’t have as many pixels.

    The thought of a photographer showing up to do a wedding with a phone staggers me!

    March 19, 2014
    • It is interesting, I have found many of the responses really good. I have heard that too, the sensor is very small, so you are limited with what you can do with the images.
      I know, how amazing, unbelievable.

      March 19, 2014
  56. Hi :)

    I have to agree with you on what you wrote. I always have my phone with me and if I see something interesting I photograph it and maybe upload it on my fb account or instagram, but I couldn’t say it’s a great photo. Phones with camera are quite handy for every situation, that I must say, but replacing the DSLR’s I don’t really think so. As you said, there to little control while using the phone’s camera.

    Have a nice day!

    March 19, 2014
    • That is so true, my daughter says they are more for the now, and I think what you have said. Thanks Klaudia.

      March 19, 2014
  57. I don’t have a DSLR, just a compact camera but it makes a much better photo than my phone camera. I also have trouble keeping the phone still as I shoot, I think it must be the depth of it rather than the size as it is about the same size as the camera. My android [Samsung galaxy 10.1] can take quite good pictures in certain conditions but that is not as good as my compact camera either.

    March 20, 2014
    • I think it seems to depend on what phone you have, from what I can make out. I think you have to work with what works for you, as long as you are taking photos, well, what more can you want. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

      March 20, 2014
  58. I’m like you in that I like my phone for fun shots. I always have my phone with me. This was a great post. It’s nice to hear from an artist that it’s ok to have fun with your phone once in a while. :)

    March 20, 2014
    • That’s great Marsha, I love playing with the phone, you can do some fun stuff with it. I say go for it, enjoy it. :)

      March 20, 2014
      • One of my best bird shots was taken with my phone. I wish I had my other camera with me, but I’m not as fast with it anyway. :)

        March 21, 2014
      • I think a lot of people have said that the best camera is the one you have with you, I like that idea. I have done similar, didn’t have my other camera, but managed to get a shot with my phone. Thanks Marsha.

        March 21, 2014
      • Good point! :)

        March 23, 2014
      • :)

        March 23, 2014
  59. I only recently converted to the smart phone world. I don’t know that I could ever go back now. I love the camera options and ability to almost instantly create interesting images with the filters. I also find that it is a great alternative when you are travelling with other non-photographers – strangely the impatient ones seem to be ok with the phone camera more than my big DSLR!

    March 20, 2014
    • I have had a smart phone for about 4 years, and I love it. Thanks for sharing how you use your phone.

      March 20, 2014
  60. Leanne, I truly don’t think that smartphones and tablets will replace cameras … because of the same reasons you have said here. And most of all I don’t hope so, because with a camera in our hands we see the world so different and I don’t think a phone will do that, because we see the phone as phone first of all .. and camera when needed to.
    I don’t have a smartphone and I will not get one neither if I can avoid it – but they take really good images. And it’s a camera that you will always have with you and there for is your best camera.

    March 21, 2014
    • I suspect phone will replace the small compact camera, I can see that happening. Though I can’t see them replacing other cameras, like the one you have, or DSLRs, they have a long way to go before they do that.
      I do love mine, I like that I have access to everything on the internet when I need it, and I can do more with it. I even have a couple of movies on it. Then, as you say, the camera is on it too, and I have used it, and like some of the shots, it is good for some fun. Thanks Viveka.

      March 22, 2014
      • I agree about the smaller camera, but still I hope they will be around, because I don’t have my mobile with me at all time. I have my small camera with me more often than the phone. I want my freedom, just found it after finish working – 5 years ago and I love it.

        March 22, 2014
      • That is great, so you have a camera with you all the time, I always have my phone, so that is my most convenient camera a lot of the time.

        March 22, 2014
      • Yes, that I can understand .. the best camera is the one we have with us.

        March 23, 2014
      • Yes, most definitely. :)

        March 23, 2014
  61. Tri Wahyu #

    I more and more use iPhone camera than my DSLR due convenience reason. In addition, I use adobe app for quick edit and upload. Unfortunately, it’s noise and blurry often trouble me particularly for evening photography. Better use it in sunny day.

    March 21, 2014
    • I think you hit the nail on the head there, the phone camera can be good but it has to have good weather for it. Thanks Tri for you thoughts here, it has been great hearing what people say.

      March 22, 2014
  62. I do take a lot of shots with my phone, but I don’t think it can replace a proper camera. It’s fun, quick and as you say, always with you. It’s also easy to share shots from the phone. But I feel it doesn’t challenge me as a photographer like my dslr does.

    March 22, 2014
    • I agree with everything you have said there, I think of my phone in exactly the same way. Thanks

      March 22, 2014
  63. I have a camera on my phone, but it’s an old phone and the quality is really lacking. It’s ok if you view it from a mobile device, but gets yucky once you try to view it from a computer screen. So I sometimes use it, but only for “social” things (FB, Twitter, Instagram), nothing more…

    May 5, 2014
    • The quality on older phones wasn’t good, I always found too that it was hard to get them off the phone. I do love the camera on my phone now, it is quite good, though again, only for the computer and only for fun. Thank you.

      May 5, 2014

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